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I'm Jen, a white, cisgendered, straight-identifying, American-born woman with a history of Christian and conservative influences. My lived experience is one of solid economic security and educational privilege. All of this shaped the lens through which I viewed life for the majority of my adult years - and it created a comfortable echo chamber where “my existing views were neatly reinforced and alternative ideas were rarely considered…” This no longer works for me.

I decided to pursue meaningful work, passion projects, and relationships that would serve as "antidotes to the echo chamber." This podcast is part of that work. Rather than put people in stereotypical boxes -  I want to grow more curious and openminded. This means listening deeply to another person’s story, especially those who differ from me. It means challenging my old paradigms and assumptions.

I pursue this on a public platform because I want to see this mindset catch fire in our culture. My guests and I will spur listeners toward healthy, candid conversations, and deep LISTENING with and for the people  in their lives (especially those whom they don’t know).
Thanks for being a part of this vision!

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Recent Episodes

REAL sex education (part 2 with hubby)

Dec. 15, 2022

We wade into deeper waters with our grown up version of the sex talk we never got as kids. Allison’s husband joins us to bring his very REAL perspective. Check out the last episode if you missed it. Bottom line, like many, I…

REAL sex education

Nov. 28, 2022

Yep, we are going there. A real conversation about sex without common misconceptions and shame. I have been pretty disconnected from my body much of my life and am slowly dismantling old ways of being and the belief systems…

Psychedelic assisted healing - a legal game changer for many

Nov. 13, 2022

I have always been an explorer with regard to self-help, personal growth, therapy, recovery and the like. This year I began hearing of people’s experiences with plant medicines as a means of doing deeper work on the mental a…

Grey-area drinking and other honest admissions

Nov. 2, 2022

I appreciate this conversation with guest, Lisa May Bennett, about our shared history around grey-area drinking, sobriety, and the way in which addictive patterns can keep us stuck. We talk about our personal journeys with a…

Dazzling Codependents

Oct. 2, 2022

We begin the new season with a discussion on codependent behaviors. GOOD TIMES! Jen and Shannon speak candidly about their own need for approval and validation, past and present. Some of us find our worth based on how OTHERS…

Lessons from the SugarMama®

July 30, 2022

It isn’t every day that I lay on a treatment table with my nether regions exposed and a podcast is born. But…this is how I operate; we talk about the topics that many avoid. I loved recording this episode with my friend and …