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Listen for REAL


I'm Jen, a white, cisgendered, straight-identifying, American-born woman with a history of Christian and conservative influences. My lived experience is one of solid economic security and educational privilege. All of this shaped the lens through which I viewed life for the majority of my adult years - and it created a comfortable echo chamber where “my existing views were neatly reinforced and alternative ideas were rarely considered…” This no longer works for me. I decided to pursue meaningful work, passion projects, and relationships that would serve as "antidotes to the echo chamber." This podcast is part of that work. Rather than put people in stereotypical boxes -  I want to grow more curious and openminded. This means listening deeply to another person’s story, especially those who differ from me. It means challenging my old paradigms and assumptions. I pursue this on a public platform because I want to see this mindset catch fire in our culture. My guests and I will spur listeners toward healthy, candid conversations, and deep LISTENING with and for the people  in their lives (especially those whom they don’t know). Thanks for being a part of this vision!